Friday I sent attack at Mi Hawk, About 10-12 seconds from my attack landing at Mi Hawk ,Porno Star attacked my return flight. I seen this and fast as I could clicked return flight to bring back my fleets.


    This left about 10 seconds to escape flight my fleet after it returned with Porno Star fleet incoming for attack.


    This is enough time for me to escape flight and I even simulated it before the event to be really good. I was timing that it would take me about 7-8 seconds. . It would be close but I should have been able to save it.


    So I'm watching the timer clock down. 5,4,3,2,1, and I click :fleet commands" and my screen, it refreshes and what pops up is the not fleet commands but the main view and I can see a spy probe that was launched about the same exact time or within a second of my fleet coming back, this caused the delay of about 2-maybe 3 seconds and that was all he needed to not allow me to escape flight in time to save. I have talked to some people in BBB and they do not think this was legal and should write you guys about it.


    I can't say for sure it was Porno Star who launched spy probe, but I can say with 100% certainty that a spy probe was launched the second of or right after my fleet landed. I know I seen a extra red line besides his attack coming in and it was a spy probe, But I did not look to see who it was, I know it did not land cause it was recalled in about 3-4 seconds after my fleet was crashed. I just did not take the time to look with the need to hurry up as fast as possible to try and save fleet.


    This is what happened, and I'm wondering if this was a legal move to do?


    Thank you for your time on this matter.


    This took place in Sirius Uni

    If I got it right it was only a single Probe?


    A single probe action ist absolutly legal confirmed. The point you alliancemembers mean is spamming probes (more than 25 incommings to same time) and even this shouldnt make problems on normal hardware devices.


    anyway this is explaining all the crying and insulting of eidanehi I read <- not your fault


    greetings


    btw if you need 7-8 seconds to do an ef normally you should train it a bit

    Yes just a single, launched within the second of my fleet landing back, I know its not the spam attack of X number of probes landing at the same time on target planet that fleet is returning to. . But the singular launch of 1 spy probe right as or just the second after my fleet landed back. If its is in fact legal than it is but it did cause in effect in my opinion the same thing as a spam attack ( A delay in screen refresh ). When I watched my fleet come back, I clicked on fleet command, I was expecting to see my fleet command screen instead I seen a refresh of my screen with it going back to the main screen with 1 extra red line (the spy probe) launched.

    Any maybe this is legal to do but here is what my issue is, it did cause a delay or not reactive response to my click of "fleet command" button same as spy probes landing and this gave him the extra couple seconds.


    I'm not gonna take anything away from PornoStar or MiHawkk if in fact this is a legal maneuver to do for a couple second delay in response then good job.
    But I did think according to the rules on spam attack that the main reason for it being illegal is the delay or inability for fleet command button to work for a period of time, in this case the delay of a couple seconds was all that was needed.



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    Ja, nur eine einzige, die innerhalb der Sekunde nach der Landung meiner Flotte gestartet wurde, ich weiß, dass es nicht der Spam-Angriff von X Sonden ist, die gleichzeitig auf dem Zielplaneten landen, zu dem die Flotte zurückkehrt. . Aber der einzigartige Start von 1 Spionagesonde direkt oder gleich in der Sekunde, nachdem meine Flotte zurückgelandet ist. Wenn es tatsächlich legal ist, dann hat es meiner Meinung nach dasselbe bewirkt wie ein Spam-Angriff ( Eine Verzögerung bei der Bildschirmaktualisierung ). Als ich sah, wie meine Flotte zurückkam, klickte ich auf Flottenbefehl, ich hatte erwartet, meinen Flottenbefehlsbildschirm zu sehen, stattdessen sah ich eine Aktualisierung meines Bildschirms mit einer Rückkehr zum Hauptbildschirm mit einer zusätzlichen roten Linie (der Spionagesonde), die gestartet wurde .

Vielleicht ist dies legal, aber hier ist mein Problem: Es hat zu einer Verzögerung oder nicht reaktiven Reaktion auf meinen Klick auf die Schaltfläche „Flottenbefehl“ geführt, genau wie bei der Landung von Spionagesonden, und dies gab ihm die zusätzlichen paar Sekunden.


Ich werde PornoStar oder MiHawkk nichts wegnehmen, wenn dies tatsächlich ein legales Manöver ist, um ein paar Sekunden Verzögerung bei der Antwort zu haben, dann gute Arbeit.
Aber ich dachte gemäß den Regeln für Spam-Angriffe, dass der Hauptgrund dafür, dass es illegal ist, die Verzögerung oder Unfähigkeit ist, dass die Flotten-Befehlstaste für einen bestimmten Zeitraum funktioniert, in diesem Fall war es nur eine Verzögerung von ein paar Sekunden erforderlich.
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    when i understand that correctly you miss the fact that you can disable page refreshs

    My page refresh was disabled. If that is what you meant. It was not a lack of page refresh. If you click on the "fleet commands" button it should after your fleet comes back bring you to fleet command screen where you can load up fleet to escape flight, my clicking on the fleet command button just acted as a refresh or the spy probe acted as that when I clicked on the "fleet command" button. . If it had worked properly or if the spy probe had not been sent I would have landed on the fleet command screen and had my fleet sitting there or if I had clicked on it too early it still would have brought me to fleet command screen while just not showing my fleet landed cause I clicked it too early.

    My page refresh is never on.


    So this is a legal move to do then? to launch a spy probe say the second before or the second someone's fleet comes back at them to cause a possible delay? If it is legal how many people can do this move?

    say could more than 1 person do this? or can only the person who is doing the attack do it?


    just for future use.

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    and this is the part your members and kaguja is pointing on:


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    § 20 Overloading systems of other player

    It is prohibited, in consultation with other players or alone, to interfere with other players' systems.

    These actions can be:


    • sending too many attacks, spies, or other actions to a single player. If we see more than 25 actions at the same time being sent by a group of players, or alone, we reserve the right to take action against this.
    • Note: you do not run the risk of spying on someone unless you use too many slots. If you show up with 1 spy probe in this mass construct, we do not assume you're involved. However, if you send several espionage actions at a time such an action is done, it may happen that the team looks at you as involved!


    but this isn't the case here

    Hello, first of all, as kaguja and Dschibait pointed out, there is no illegal action, the fault lies with you, to be in the command centre 10 seconds before an interception is grossly negligent, it is possible to rave in 5-6 seconds if you do it right.

    To now accuse other players of illegal activities is for me a sign of a bad loser.

    Congratulations to Mihawk and Pornstar

    Ok so this answers my question, IT IS LEGAL TO DO. Thanks. I disagree because it did cause interference with my system but that's fine better for clarification now so when Eidanehii uses it on someone as I'm sure he will use any legal exploitations. Then no one will be getting there fleet back then..............again.

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    To now accuse other players of illegal activities is for me a sign of a bad loser.

    Congratulations to Mihawk and Pornstar

    I think maybe you mis read my question. . Is asking for clarification on a attack a accusation of cheating??? You get your feathers fluffed pretty easy then.

    As I stated in my previous post, " I'm not gonna take anything away from PornoStar or MiHawkk if in fact this is a legal maneuver to do for a couple second delay in response then good job."


    I also think maybe you don't understand what I'm saying, I would have been in my fleet command screen at 10 seconds if not for a spy probe being sent simultaneously as my fleet is coming back, that is what cause delay. anyways you seem to be aggressive in your response because asking a question to you is being a bad loser.

    Have a good day.

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    and - just saying -

    its right now not disabled.

    I think we are having communication/translation problems on my end or yours. My site refresh is disactivated. its always disactivated. I never enable it while ships are being built or ever for that matter. I don't think I have ever ever turned it on.

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    I think we are having communication/translation problems on my end or yours. My site refresh is disactivated. its always disactivated. I never enable it while ships are being built or ever for that matter. I don't think I have ever ever turned it on.

    i dont talk about the refresh option when building ships ... i talk about site refreshs when a counter is at zero ... your ships are coming back 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and then a site refresh. You can disable this in the settings, but you don't do that.

    This cause a refresh when you (same time) clicking on the fleet comand link, which ends up that the browser notice just one click, which was here the refresh and not your click.


    thats finally expalined the behavoir.