Once, when there was another game owner, the rules were clear, consistent, and unchanged. Since the game was bought by Dschibait, the rules are constantly changing.Many GO decisions are controversial. I would like to discuss this. I hope that the thread will not be blocked.Gentlemen GO, can we discuss?
Maximus 13 year in SI
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We sure can discuss this.
As you have brought it up, lets talk clear.
You/your teammates in an Alliance Attack attacked somebody and to recycle the debris, one of your teammates used your planet move to do so.
As per this rule addition the planet move is not allowed to be used offensively:
https://board.bitmeup.com/inde…read/4335-Rule-Additions/Without the planet move you would have been able to collect the debris therefore it (for us) clearly is offensively.
Regards,
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we bought the game in 2011 ... a discussion at least 10 years based on "before you bought it" isn't correct and i don't want to do it if you start this, this way.
Its ok to think that some changes / rules / or decissions from a GO isn't in your opinion; but linking this to a date or to me isn't a not good way which i don't want to discuss.
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Is collecting debris offensive? Why didn't you turn off this option in the game? Why can't you attack from a moved planet and send recyclers? This is a loophole in the game (new rules) that we have used. Torpoi's amateur didn't anticipate that.
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Other players ask us game operators before trying "loopholes". You did not. Why?
We simply cant control every move there possibly is but in this case we did not turn it of on purpose. If somebody moves a planet they'd like to collect some scraps from an event for example.
But attacking somebody and then moving your planet to get the debris is offensive from our point of view.
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This flot was destroing and recycle on move planet .
Its be compatible with regulations?
If yes why recycle sasza23 on torpoi is not compatible?
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This flot was destroing and recycle on move planet .
Its be compatible with regulations?
If yes why recycle sasza23 on torpoi is not compatible?
In this case a planet from a defending player can not be moved if the recycler are already on their way.
If there is not active flight on the planet, you would be able to move it.lets turn the question around, why would you not start your recycler before or while attacking? It would be way to late to start them when the attack is over.
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Recycling on move planet is compatible with regulations
No matter if Red od yellow
Its over for discusion
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As you have clearly seen today using your planet move to recycle an attack is not allowed and the regulation for this is here: https:/board.bitmeup.com/index.php/Thread/4335-Rule-Additions/
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In this case a planet from a defending player can not be moved if the recycler are already on their way.If there is not active flight on the planet, you would be able to move it.
lets turn the question around, why would you not start your recycler before or while attacking? It would be way to late to start them when the attack is over.
only to clearify this - the rubblefield (debris) isn't move with the planet.
You use a planet move for a part of our battle script (recycling of winnings) which is an OFFENSIVE Action.
if you think that a recycling isn't a offensive action, why you do it after a battle?
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Gentlemen GO. You make changes to the game.No thoughts.Torpoi attacked the Mad-sed player. We used it.He didn't predict it. I think you protect him.He is a weak strategist.You are trying to reward him for his stupidity.
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Many times i recycling from another planet than i attacking
Its not compatible with regulations?
Its joke?
What about recycling with move planet on event 31.12.2019 1.01.2020 in Red planet
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Sorry aber ich sehe das ähnlich wie die die Herren hier.
Planetenverschiebung zum Reccen ist keine aggressive Spielhandlung. Sofern sie auch wirklich nur recyceln. Wenn sie einen Angriff fliegen sieht es anders aus aber das sollte ja vom System geblockt sein.
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Sorry but I see it same way like the other gamer. Use planetmovement for recycling istn an attacking. As long as it is only recycling. Once they fly an attack it will be other point but that is blocked by system
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Gentlemen GO. You make changes to the game.No thoughts.Torpoi attacked the Mad-sed player. We used it.He didn't predict it. I think you protect him.He is a weak strategist.You are trying to reward him for his stupidity.
why i reward him ? he still has no fleet - the rubble was only removed from the attacker; no fleets are restored.
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Just to make that clear, the debris were removed from the game, not given back to the defender.
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Der Kampf an sich war ja auch völlig legetim und auch ein sauberer abfang, aber wie bereit gesagt wurde die Planeten verschiebung zu nutzen um das trümmerfeld zu bekommen und durch der 12 Stunden angriffsschutz die auf dem verschobenen planeten liegt hat einen möglichen abfang verhindert.
Das und die bisher aufgezählten gründe haben zu unserer entscheidung geführtGrüße Boendal
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desweiter will ich erst gar nicht wissen was hier los gewesen wäre wenn jemand ne planetenverschiebung genutzt hätte um das Trümmerfeld bei viking_1 zu stehlen welches ich gesehen habe und sogar noch mit jemand anderem darüber gesprochen habe dies zu tun...
@ KagujaChisei
ich bezweifel stark das du es toll finden würdest wenn dir jemand mit ner Verschiebung das tf klaut
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@ KagujaChisei
ich bezweifel stark das du es toll finden würdest wenn dir jemand mit ner Verschiebung das tf klaut
danach was ich persönlichen alles toll oder nicht toll finden würde, sollten wir besser nicht gehen.
Nur so am Rande ich zocke das DG, wenn mich da einer angreift brauch ich nicht zu deffen, wenn der andere die reccen timed sehe ich nie etwas vom TF. Also ja ich fände das zwar nicht toll aber machbar.Eher interessant finde ichdas Argument, das ein Abfang der Reccen ausgeschlossen wäre. Das stimmt wohl. Aber in vergleichbren Situationen wurde stehts immer so Argumentiert, dass ein solcher Abfang eh auf eigenes Risiko geflogen worden wäre und keine Erfolgsgarantie bestünde. Das wiederum bedeutet auch, zu mindestens wäre es der Umkehrschluss, dass erst einmal nachgewiesen werden müsste, dass irgendwer hätte den Abfang fliegen können. (also wollen also on sein usw, können vom Flotte usw her und dann auch noch keinen Fehler beim timen machen etc)
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Das wiederum bedeutet auch, zu mindestens wäre es der Umkehrschluss, dass erst einmal nachgewiesen werden müsste, dass irgendwer hätte den Abfang fliegen können. (also wollen also on sein usw, können vom Flotte usw her und dann auch noch keinen Fehler beim timen machen etc)
You're wrong, nothing has to be proven.
Our opinion is clear, recyclers on debris from attacks are out not allowed. Recyclers for events e.g. should already be allowed, that's why we have not banned them in the first place.
However, since the first incident already exists after such a short time, we should create a technical solution to ban recycle flights on such debris in the future or to make them not lucrative. Our current ideas are:
- Prohibit recyclers like attacks
- Flights with more than 50 recyclers can only be "saves", no recycle flights -
sehr guter Ansatz... genauso sperren wie angriffe vom system
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