Basically yes you are were talking about a new building AFO which is basically a research building therefore I was not going off topic. But simply saying that why would we need the AFO if we can have the Research Lab reduction times changed to allow for continual reduction amount % up to 100% and beyond that. By making the change to % amounts to the research Lab you actually get what your trying to produce from a AFO with a building that is all ready in the game. So I see no point in bringing a AFO which is just another research building that reduces time's. So the problem lays within the % amount of the research Lab not the need for a new building.

    halien yes I am talking about a new building which only starts when you have a lab 20 on your plapla and this new research building will give you 50% or more reduction than and I do say that ON THE TIME of construction of the research ..
    - Do you think that you will have the means to put 400 Billion of Metal and 160 Billion of spice to make a lab 30 .. ???
    - to just reduce your construction of your new tech by 60 days .. ?? (only)
    - are you ready to wait 1,220 days for your tech .. ??
    ok - 60 days because you will have successfully completed your 30 lab but how soon will you have a 30 lab ???


    so I think at some point you will not want to do anything because it will take you 10 times too long and to prove to you what I say here is the table of the lab from level 18 and up to level 30 with the resources and construction time so do your calculation in how long you will have your level 30 and that with an AMS 8


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    dchilbait I think you did not understand what I meant


    Do you find it normal that one technology lasts 1,220 days and the next one doubles it?
    how do you want us to advance on the game if the research is so long .. ??

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    and how do you think that you reward these players who already waited for these 1220 days and maybe finished it?


    If you want a really research "fight" you can go into the Sirius Universe like it was already wrote here. But in a RETRO universe, changing something like this, its rly hard and have to thought about completly.


    I think there are many ways where you could get research reductions (hour by hour) and don't reduce it by a base. So a player which had already researched a bigger researrch has no benefit and no disadvantage - with your idea, he had the disadvantage that he waits for something you want to reduce.

    anyway you are against any advance in the retro
    it's a dying game


    and I think that is what you want to do to replace them with your other servers .. this is a shame :: damage !!!!


    because you don't want to listen to the players trying to push the retro


    on this, I think I said everything ... I try but obviously we are talking with a wall .. you are not open at all to conversation and new ideas


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    could you please read my post and don't blame me ?


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    I think there are many ways where you could get research reductions (hour by hour)


    A hour by hour reduction (like it was implemented right now) is much more fair like your version. A player can stil get a research done as faster as before - but anyone had to play spaceinvasion.


    With your solution a player can reduce a research by 600days (like your exmaple) and anotther player had already done these 600 days... with my solution, both players had the same reduction which they got from rewards and not different stuff.


    so stop blaming and calm down!

    do not blame you I said you do not want to understand what I said
    Total research time: 624 D 15:53:44 = 1 year and 9 months
    the next technology will be double therefore 1248 Days and the next level also therefore 2496 DAYS
    1) explain to me how we are going ??? with LONG times too .. ??
    2) even if we increase the laboratory, it will only go down a few days (10 -20 - 30 days) and how much we will have to spend? to win if I can .. ??
    3) so 30 days or 1 month to earn over 6 years and 8 months .. do you find that fair ???


    that's why I proposed this kind of new research building that would divide time and not resources by 2
    now it's up to you to see if this is good for players or not
    but I think if we did a survey there would be many who would say YES


    AFO

    Well your calculations haven't taken into account the events that are run during the
    year where if you did the events you can get the prize of taking off research time. But yes late game research does take long times. Well at least then Techs don't get way out of control. And to those who wait the time and succeed in achieving the next level get the bonus of probably being the only one with that higher tech for a while.

    Another option would be to introduce a research bonus that, depending on when you registered, reduces the research time by a percentage, if you play for 10 years there is a bonus of 80% on the research time, you only play 8% extra for one yearBut you also have to see that a long-term university cannot work forever if we all have a much lower life expectancy, but the parameters increase proportionallyAnd if individual research units are no longer available because they do not work for a certain level, in the course of time you have even less to do and the enthusiasm for creating something disappears into the cellar

    pifpaf


    to put a bonus compared to the YEARS of the players, it is good BUT take an example


    - a player plays for 12 years he has 120 M points .. for XX reasons he is sick, hospitalized .. 3 months or for any other reason IRL, he turns yellow, loses his fleet ..... 3 months more late he starts playing again so new account .. !! ???? what becomes of his 20% he had won ??? he has LOST everything so he has to go back to 12 years to recover his 20% ... ??


    While with the system that I propose, you need to have the LABORATORY level 20 to unlock the new technology and there you have to go up to level 25 to WIN 50% .... it's 50% over the TIME and not on the resources it takes to build. It remains the same


    And I would even say that we should put this new technology


    up to Level 30 and there ............. at level 30


    ALL I mean ALL the technology would be blocked at 18 months ==> 548 days




    You G O, you will say: I favor large accounts !! Yes and no


    because a small account will NEVER take 3 years to build a level of technology; the small account will be at 1 month at the maximum


    BUT on the other hand MISTERRS G. O. looked at the BIG ACCOUNTS which are in the top 30 in search 'I am far from it)


    Ask them if they would not agree to have an A.F.O. to reduce their time (and not resources) to build research





    It is true that I maybe set the bar a little high BUT large accounts have resources so it should be possible for them to reach level 30




    Now AlienHarvestor !!!!!


    did you wait to have christmas or easter or other events, to have your micro system accelerator on all your planets ???? NO




    AMS is very good for vessels and the fleet


    WHY should there not be an A . F. O. for technology .. ?? apart from the lab .. ??


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    here is the table and at level 30 we would no longer need to activate anything it will be a technology like all the others and at level 30 it would be 18 months for all constructions of evolution of technologies and at level 25 this would be 50% less on technology



    A.F.O.niveau 1568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    568 320335 274448 532280 000
    niveau 141 136 640670 548897 064560 000
    2 273 2801 341 0961 794 1281 120 000
    4 546 5602 682 1923 588 2562 240 000
    9 093 1205 364 3847 176 5124 480 000
    18 186 24010 728 76814 353 0248 960 000
    36 372 48021 457 53628 706 04817 920 000
    72 744 96042 915 07257 412 09635 840 000
    145 489 92085 830 144114 824 19271 680 000
    290 979 840171 660 288229 648 384143 360 000
    581 959 680343 320 576459 296 768286 720 000
    1 163 919 360686 641 152918 593 536573 440 000
    50%niveau 252 327 838 7201 373 282 3041 837 187 0721 146 880 000
    264 655 677 4401 373 282 3043 674 374 1442 293 760 000
    274 655 677 4401 373 282 3043 674 374 1442 293 760 000
    284 655 677 4402 746 564 6083 674 374 1442 293 760 000
    294 655 677 4402 746 564 6083 674 374 1442 293 760 000
    18 month304 655 677 4402 746 564 6083 674 374 1442 293 760 000
    total ress.27 940 316 16014 155 941 45422 051 178 71613 922 926 400





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