I used to play SI before, a while ago now for sure, before Urplasma and SP2, but I was also there for their introduction.


    Back then Wars were ALWAYS about Fleet/Defence points killed. Back then only Battle Reports post on the forum war thread counted, but sometimes at the start Alliances might agree hits on Shields only did not count. As far as I know this is still how wars are decided as there is no other way to determine the outcome of a war. You are changing things just to suit your own ends. Basically you are a bad loser.


    Also back then the Forum Mod would act as referee so I ask the Forum Mod to adjudicate on this matter or there is no point to this war, no way to determine the outcome and there will be no end.


    Forum Mod please get involved and help us

    Torak of SCAR


    Like 1

    when did wars become about growth? .... pretty aure war = destruction?


    If you looking to win the 2017 best growth award then please keep going, but if your looking to win this war pull your finger out and make some attacks? Lol.


    The attacking fleet fires 370 times with a firepower of 200355 + X damage points.
    The defending fleet is damaged by 23541 damage points.
    The defending fleet fires 227 times with a firepower of 26388 + X damage points.
    The attacking fleet is damaged by 26388 damage points.




    ROUND - 2 -

    Attacker Manumagicpig_1


    45105220
    247608570
    140360600
    9500095000114000


    Defender Moloch



    4091
    26064020
    147378168
    950009500085500


    The attacking fleet fires 370 times with a firepower of 200355 + X damage points.
    The defending fleet is damaged by 9450 damage points.
    The defending fleet fires 50 times with a firepower of 16180 + X damage points.
    The attacking fleet is damaged by 16180 damage points.




    ROUND - 3 -

    Attacker Manumagicpig_1


    45105220
    247608570
    140360600
    9500095000114000


    Defender Moloch

    DESTROYED








    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 2.705.991 pieces of pig iron, 2.235.905 pieces of metal, 2.160.065 kryptonite crystals, 1.874.552 units of spice

    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 6.296.000 units.

    There are now 1.376.000 metal and 1.016.000 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 2%

    SCAR was supposed to think before to declare the war. The wars never go as planned or as wished. Torak begins to understand how easy is to lose if not thinking. Now enjoy:


    FLEET POINTS growth since the begin of the war:
    (1 fleet point = 2000 damage)


    IU: + 79.732.384
    SCAR: + 39.478.466


    Stop posting your stupid fleet gains? this is not an arms race it is a WAR!


    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-07 16:39:24 :


    ROUND - 1 -


    Attacker Manumagicpig_1


    TypeTransmitterNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    20
    247
    140
    95000


    Defender Henni1991_1



    DESTROYED








    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 2.832.655 pieces of pig iron, 379.377 pieces of metal, 1.395.987 kryptonite crystals, 88.014 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 0 units.


    There are now 0 metal and 0 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 0%



    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-07 16:36:46 :


    ROUND - 1 -


    Attacker Manumagicpig_1
    TypeTransmitterNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    15
    247
    140
    95000


    Defender Henni1991_1


    DESTROYED








    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 1.755.154 pieces of pig iron, 241.604 pieces of metal, 775.871 kryptonite crystals, 41.744 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 0 units.


    There are now 0 metal and 0 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 0%




    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-07 16:36:29 :


    ROUND - 1 -


    Attacker Manumagicpig_1


    TypeTransmitterNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    10
    247
    140
    95000


    Defender Henni1991_1


    DESTROYED








    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 1.384.277 pieces of pig iron, 241.699 pieces of metal, 837.402 kryptonite crystals, 36.621 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 0 units.


    There are now 0 metal and 0 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 0%




    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-07 16:29:55 :


    ROUND - 1 -


    Attacker Manumagicpig_1 [01:35:02]
    Weapons:90% Shield:100% Defense:90%


    TypeTransmitterPhoenixNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    1050
    247608
    140360
    9500095000


    Defender marbu [01:32:06]
    Weapons:30% Shield:50% Defense:50%



    TypeTurboflakLight graviton cannonIon cannonNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    347
    28665162.5
    12037.5187.5
    18000450015000


    The attacking fleet fires 60 times with a firepower of 32870 + X damage points.
    The defending fleet is damaged by 1822.5 damage points.
    The defending fleet fires 14 times with a firepower of 2255.5 + X damage points.
    The attacking fleet is damaged by 2255.5 damage points.




    ROUND - 2 -


    Attacker Manumagicpig_1


    TypeTransmitterPhoenixNumberFirepowerShieldDefense

    1050
    247608
    140360
    9500095000


    Defender marbu


    DESTROYED








    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 1.076.833 pieces of pig iron, 471.108 pieces of metal, 696.617 kryptonite crystals, 140.314 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 32.000 units.


    There are now 2.800 metal and 3.600 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 0%

    As I have already said....FLEET GROWTH IS MEANINGLESS. Only fleet kills count. It has always been this way and still is. YOU ARE A CHEAT!!!!!

    Torak of SCAR


    Torak:" "As I have already said....FLEET GROWTH IS MEANINGLESS. Only fleet kills count. It has always been this way and still is. YOU ARE A CHEAT!!!!!""


    sitizen: As I have already said... FLEET DESTROY IS MEANINGLESS. Only fleet growth count. It will not be your wish. YOU ARE THE BAD LOSER WHINING HERE!!!!!

    Edited once, last by sitizen ().


    The following fleets confronted each other on on 2017-06-08


    ________________________


    Battle lasted 2 Rounds
    ________________________

    [size=1]First Round ---> Last Round    [/size]



    Attacker: -Dreadnaught
    Transmitter 222 ---> 222
    Phoenix 5302 ---> 5302
    Stealth Bomber 4445 ---> 4445


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    Defender: Skyluke
    Ion Cannon 1 ---> Destroyed
    Laser Cannon Battery 1 ---> Destroyed
    Small Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    Large Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    ________________________________


    Solar Cells 12 ---> Destroyed
    Battleship 8 ---> Destroyed
    Stealth Bomber 1 ---> Destroyed
    Destroyer 13 ---> Destroyed


    The attacker won the battle!


    He won 3.635.302 pieces of pig iron 1.233.010 pieces of metal 1.836.635 kryptonite crystals 425.832 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 2.099.400 units.


    There are now 455.600 metal and 371.560 kryptonite at these space coordinates The chance of an asteroid forming is 1%



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    The following fleets confronted each other on on 2017-06-08


    ________________________


    Battle lasted 4 Rounds
    ________________________

    [size=1]First Round ---> Last Round[/size]



    Attacker: -Dreadnaught
    Transmitter 75 ---> 75
    Phoenix 555 ---> 555


    [Blocked Image: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z304/stephen_tl/default.jpg]


    Defender: Catterpiler
    ________________________________


    Transmitter 230 ---> Destroyed
    Spy Probe 100 ---> Destroyed
    Recycler 100 ---> Destroyed


    The attacker won the battle!


    He won 7.104.882 pieces of pig iron 4.840.886 pieces of metal 2.497.128 kryptonite crystals 4.428.676 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 13.500.000 units.


    There are now 2.700.000 metal and 2.620.000 kryptonite at these space coordinates The chance of an asteroid forming is 6%



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    The following fleets confronted each other on on 2017-06-08


    ________________________


    Battle lasted 3 Rounds
    ________________________

    [size=1]First Round ---> Last Round[/size]



    Attacker: -Dreadnaught
    Phoenix 222 ---> 222


    [Blocked Image: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z304/stephen_tl/default.jpg]


    Defender: Catterpiler
    ________________________________


    Transmitter 20 ---> Destroyed
    Colony Ship 1 ---> Destroyed
    Recycler 149 ---> Destroyed


    The attacker won the battle!


    He won 27.750 pieces of pig iron 27.750 pieces of metal 27.750 kryptonite crystals 27.750 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 3.578.000 units.


    There are now 804.000 metal and 504.000 kryptonite at these space coordinates The chance of an asteroid forming is 1%



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    The following fleets confronted each other on on 2017-06-08


    ________________________


    Battle lasted 4 Rounds
    ________________________

    [size=1]First Round ---> Last Round[/size]



    Attacker: -Dreadnaught
    Transmitter 88 ---> 87
    Phoenix 111 ---> 111


    [Blocked Image: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z304/stephen_tl/default.jpg]


    Defender: monteiro7_1
    Small Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    Large Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    ________________________________


    Transmitter 5 ---> Destroyed
    Small Fighter 178 ---> Destroyed
    Battleship 10 ---> Destroyed


    The attacker won the battle!


    He won 11.306.162 pieces of pig iron 1.577.828 pieces of metal 7.002.226 kryptonite crystals 1.001.430 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 50.000 units.
    The defender lost a total of 1.971.000 units.


    There are now 491.400 metal and 306.400 kryptonite at these space coordinates The chance of an asteroid forming is 0%



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    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-08 :


    Attacker STR1KEOUT

    Phoenix 9.000



    Defender Major

    Mortar 200
    Light graviton cannon 350
    Heavy graviton cannon 20
    Ion cannon 200
    Positron lighter 20
    Interval cannon 100
    Laser cannon battery 100
    Solar cannon 30
    Small shield dome 1
    Large shield dome 1
    Transmitter 100
    Small fighter 800
    Phoenix 1566
    Solar cells 120
    Recycler 350


    [BATTLE]



    Defender Major

    DESTROYED




    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 307 pieces of pig iron, 153 pieces of metal, 314 kryptonite crystals, 13 units of spice

    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 99.203.000 units.

    There are now 22.982.200 metal and 15.441.200 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 20%







    The following fleets confronted each other on on 2017-06-10


    ________________________


    Battle lasted 4 Rounds
    ________________________

    [size=1]First Round ---> Last Round[/size]



    Attacker: -Dreadnaught
    Phoenix 7803 ---> 7803
    Stealth Bomber 4444 ---> 4404


    [Blocked Image: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z304/stephen_tl/default.jpg]


    Defender: Skyluke
    Ion Cannon 1 ---> Destroyed
    Laser Cannon Battery 1 ---> Destroyed
    Small Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    Large Shield Dome 1 ---> Destroyed
    ________________________________


    Transmitter 540 ---> Destroyed
    Small Fighter 175 ---> Destroyed
    Phoenix 226 ---> Destroyed
    Colony Ship 1 ---> Destroyed
    Solar Cells 12 ---> Destroyed
    Spy Probe 534 ---> Destroyed
    Recycler 466 ---> Destroyed
    Battleship 303 ---> Destroyed
    Stealth Bomber 240 ---> Destroyed
    Destroyer 869 ---> Destroyed
    Imperial Starbase 2 ---> Destroyed


    The attacker won the battle!


    He won 2.516.775 pieces of pig iron 2.516.775 pieces of metal 2.516.775 kryptonite crystals 2.516.775 units of spice


    The attacker lost a total of 4.000.000 units.
    The defender lost a total of 196.715.400 units.


    There are now 42.251.600 metal and 37.657.760 kryptonite at these space coordinates The chance of an asteroid forming is 20%


    Recycling Mission Report


    3089 Recycler mined 39567237 Metal and 37657760 Kryptonite.


    A total of 39567237 Metal and 37657760 Kryptonite was mined.



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    Beta v0.80

    Hmmm! Based on the numbers you provided, who has better Fleet growth?


    Start of the war
    SCAR: 3,176,677
    IU: 10,855,496


    Almost a 3:1 IU Fleet superiority advantage!


    Today
    SCAR: 43,011,708
    IU: 91,071,478



    Reduced to almost a 2:1 IU Fleet superiority advantage!!!



    Who is showing better Fleet growth? SCAR is closing in on IU!
    Despite IU's superior fleet advantage, who is taking the lead in the war? SCAR.



    So the war HAS stunted IU's Fleet growth. IU Should have maintained or exceeded SCAR's Fleet growth, but they did not.

    Your math is wrong again:


    If SCAR is closing IU this would mean some day it will have the same fleet points as IU has. Obviosly it will not happen - the gap was ~7 mil in the beginning and is ~40 mil now. IU has 2 times bigger fleet growth than SCAR.


    SCAR failed in his effort to stop IU and is doing worse than IU. War or not war, SCAR or not SCAR, those (IU) players who do not play properly will lose their fleets anyway.


    Who is taking the lead in the war? IU. 91 > 43 , 80 > 49


    It is your imagination you are doing something, actually, with your (failed) war.

    Edited once, last by sitizen ().

    Posted for Twopair


    Twopair (SCAR) vs. Catterpillar (IU)



    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-20 21:46:59 :

    ROUND - 1 -

    Attacker Twopair_830

    Type Transmitter Phoenix
    Number 4 2001
    Firepower 338 832
    Shield 175 450
    Defense 125000 125000


    Defender Catterpiler

    Type Interval cannon Solar cannon Small shield dome Large shield dome Transmitter Colony ship Spy probe
    Number 90 30 1 1 50 1 11
    Firepower 1980 4400 0 0 286 22 0
    Shield 210 2100 6300 63000 147 168 12.6
    Defense 63000 252000 27300 84000 105000 94500 6300


    The attacking fleet fires 2005 times with a firepower of 1666184 + X damage points.
    The defending fleet is damaged by 158856.6 damage points.
    The defending fleet fires 184 times with a firepower of 324522 + X damage points.
    The attacking fleet is damaged by 324522 damage points.


    ROUND - 2 -

    Attacker Twopair_830

    Type Transmitter Phoenix
    Number 4 2001
    Firepower 338 832
    Shield 175 450
    Defense 125000 125000


    Defender Catterpiler

    Type Large shield dome
    Number 1
    Firepower 0
    Shield 63000
    Defense 84000


    The attacking fleet fires 2005 times with a firepower of 1666184 + X damage points.
    The defending fleet is damaged by 63000 damage points.
    The defending fleet fires 1 times with a firepower of 0 + X damage points.
    The attacking fleet is damaged by 0 damage points.


    ROUND - 3 -

    Attacker Twopair_830

    Defender Catterpiler

    DESTROYED


    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 212.831 pieces of pig iron, 79.463 pieces of metal, 112.531 kryptonite crystals, 72.711 units of spice

    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 4.551.000 units.

    There are now 670.600 metal and 751.200 kryptonite at these space coordinates
    The chance of an asteroid forming is 2%


    :P :P :P :P :P


    Good hit Twopair!


    SCAR: 586,796,400
    IU: 23,610,000


    :P :P :P :P :P

    Posted for Twopair


    Twopair (SCAR) vs. Cattepiller (IU)


    The following fleets fought against each other on 2017-06-20 21:47:37 :

    ROUND - 1 -

    Attacker Twopair_830



    Type Transmitter Phoenix
    Number 2 2001


    Defender Catterpiler

    Type Interval cannon Solar cannon
    Number 62 21


    ROUND - 2 -

    Attacker Twopair_830

    Type Transmitter Phoenix
    Number 2 2001


    Defender Catterpiler

    DESTROYED


    The attacker won the battle!
    He won 106.760 pieces of pig iron, 39.982 pieces of metal, 56.570 kryptonite crystals, 36.394 units of spice

    The attacker lost a total of 0 units.
    The defender lost a total of 1.140.000 units.

    There are now 94.000 metal and 134.000 kryptonite at these space coordinates.


    :P :P :P :P :P


    Well done!!!


    SCAR: 587.936,400
    IU: 23,610,000


    :P :P :P :P :P