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The reality is that this game is a war game - period. The strategy is/was to build your empire and climb one's way to the top.. which eventually means you need to attack others and bring down other empires in the process. As you get closer to the top, there's literally no other way... or there wasn't until now

I know we all want more players. Sell me 51% or more of the game and I believe I could help you achieve that. But by changing the foundation of the game... changes everything.. and if I started getting pushed down because of a player's collecting massive unearned resources.. then you'll start losing your loyal players this will change the entire face of the game will change.

This game, to be honest, is mind-numbingly boring. The ones who play this game enjoy it because we're true fans of the game.. because of the way it is / was. But NO, I don't like the idea of being passed up from another player because he's collecting massive unearned resources. I don't like that at all, personally.

I'm not sure abut that. I think it's good that there are other ways to outplay somebody (and it depends on activity). Because in that game killing somebody fleet is really hard, and actually impossible if somebody is just playing right (send his fleet so it returns when he will be back in game). So I think there should be some other competitive way of playing.

How to attract more players and keep them ?

Let's map the pros and cons of the game..

Pros:

- Enjoyable to build an intergalactic empire

- Strategy to play this game isn't as obvious as it seems, once you really get into it.. we have to observe online times, building styles, aggressivity level, some psychological play too, be mathematically smart for more advanced attacks and strategies, etc..

- When the game is active, the drama of being in an alliance possesses its own type of fun too

Cons:

- It's 24/7 - literally no breaks.. which does have some positives to it, true. But it promotes an imbalance in a person's life... like social media does, also. Personally, I feel that's unhealthy unless that person has some really special circumstances that allow such an imbalance. But in general, it's not a positive thing. True

- It's slow !! I should be able to hit a planet in the same solar system in less than 10 minutes if my engine techs are decently high. Agree

- Cost of send flights doesn't seem like a big deal, until you have a fleet that consumes more spice than the player produces from their mines in an entire day. So the mine production or flight costs are out of balance. It must be really big fleet to get at this point. I know with 45 mil of battle ships have to pay about 36 milion spice for send 24h filght. While I produce about 15 per day (with speed-up 1). So it's really huge fleet when you can't sustain the flights. And now (even if rubble fields would be smaller then now) it's not a big deal.

- Some of the Rules

---> I know I'll hear it for this.. but restricting players by how they manage their account is ridiculous. ...how to handle trade profiting (although I always do fair trade values when I trade), multi-accounting, account takeovers, "Pushing", and even some of the censorship is a bit too extreme. COMPLETLY AGREE. That's the best thing you mentioned here. I also think that rules in that game are little bit crazy, and the worst (or maybe the best) thing is that they are not enforced. As a resoult honest players lose, because player that cheat can do it and nobody will stop him but honest player will play with that (let's say stupid) rules and never will be able to catch up in the same amount of time to cheater.

Now perhaps this is a different admin from when I played this in the past. I don't know, I just recently returned to the game a couple of years ago and so far, so good. But I remember the punishments to players who broke the rules were wildly extreme... giving no regard to the hours of those players have poured into this game.. supporting it... promoting it, encouraging existing players to participate more, etc.

As I've said in a separate thread, in the past the admin started banning people left and right.. which is the real reason this game died years ago. we had good and influential players who drew other players to enjoy the game. I was wrongfully banned twice, also. Now it seems to have changed, I don't know. I have noticed some mutli-accounting in the game, but I really don't care because it doesn't affect me.

I don't do this... I don't have the time.... but people who multi-account should be allowed (for example) because it would add a different level of strategy to this game... which would add some interesting complexity to it. And if players want to give their resources and ships to another player... why should the admin care ? That person spent time building their account and their relationships in the game and there's absolutely nothing wrong with allowing people to turn over their empire to another player. Who cares ?? Agreed

...or even if they want to give their account to someone else... just let them do it. Agreed

THE TIME THAT EACH PLAYER INVESTS INTO THE GAME SHOULD BE RESPECTED BY GIVING THEM FREEDOM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR ACCOUNT - PERIOD. They're the ones who are investing their time, and sometimes their money. That should have a meaning to the admin more than most things. Agreed

As long as they're not hacking the system to get intel on other players or whatever.. hacking, in general, is the worst, of course. But let players trade at the rates they want, while informing everyone what the fair trade value actually is. If they want to make a stupid decision, let them !! That's their problem

...and the admin have other concerns to deal with. Agreed

I didn't want to get into great detail there.. but basically, some of the game's rules are ridiculous. It's like the concept of "freedom" is completely overlooked. Agreed

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Like I said, best improvementa are speeding up the ships, better optimization of the research times (for more advance research - I mean, 2 years ?? ..that's crazy), better optimization of mines (costs and production), and kill the rules that only add more unnecessary work for the admin, anyways.

Also agree, some way of seped up flights (but not attack ones) would be awsome. Game would feel more responsive. Reserch times must be shorter. Right now this times are redicilous or speed-ups must be availible in normal version of game (with no event). Also optimization of mines it's something I mentioned before and it would be good thing to do. Also delete some of rules would be cool, they are not respected, they are not enforced, why do they exist?

There's my 2 cents... back to my corner

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Good post.

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And that sums up the whole game and the community perfectly.

Nobody wants to take a risk any more. Risks can never be 100% hedged, but always high enough to make it very difficult for the risk to hit you.

I can't agree with that. If I can see your whole fleet at planet and lot of resources and I have 2-3 times bigger fleet then you then probably I will try to hit you. You always compare the risk with the possible reward. And if rewards is much bigger then you might risk to get it.

The bigger fleet player that you want to attack has the bigger reward you must see at his planet to attack him

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Yes, there is no point in discussing this with you.

There were more than enough chances. Feel free to ask DarkAngel how often she saw spy reports where there were over 500 million iron, metal, kryptonite on the planets. You avoid this criticism and deflect it.

To be clear it's easy to understand why she wouldnt attack you. You have 500 milion of each resource, and 170 milion points in fleet. So she would have to send at least ~350 milion fleet at you to be safe. And probably you don't have all planets next to each other so distance is big. So on fuel she must spend milions of fuel and she takes risk that you will just fly away with all resources and she will lose time and milions of spice.

For me it's pretty normal that I usually don't even think about attacking players with couple bilions resources on planet.

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the thing is, if you do just once a crappy thing, dont telling

I want to be sure, you talk to "AI-Virus"? Not to me right?

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I'm clearly questioning the importance of mines, an elemental element of the game, and you're giving me ranking/fleet stuff?

The speedup system was created so that small players could catch up with big players. For this it is necessary that big players have less resources available than the small ones. Is that currently the case from your point of view? Rozpruwacz has made almost 300 billion spice in the last 24 hours. Now imagine that on 365 days and on your beloved points?

Yea, I can agree. The speed-up system if you think about resources only isn't that helpful. But of course it also makes your buildings and ships build faster, and I think that's main advantage on this, and it's really important.

I also growth super fast (I'm best example that that speed up works). But I didn't grow with no reason. I'm pretty sure I'm most active player for now. I have build infrastructure for such a game (very high level of fleet base). And I think it's good thing that most active player grows the most. That's reason why I play all day, because it profits me. But you shouldn't say "imagine that on 365 days" because I don't believe that any human beeing is able to play with that activity for such a long time (my brain would melt).
Now I have a big preassure of playing because I want to get closer to DA, then I can slow down because nobody will be able to destroy me. And I'm not the only one. I believe "salander12" and "Andyxl" made big progress too. As I observe they only today went up like 50-70 milion points. And you can do this too instead of staying at 600 milion points

And I can agree about mines too. They are useless BUT they were even before the derbis fields update. I think mines should be reworked completly so you can kind of upgrade them infinitly. Right know I gather huge amounts of pig iron from rubble fields and I don't have any way to spend it because building mines for that is just like losing them, mines doesn't exist in my opinion but it's not rubble fields fault but just how game was made. And indirectly by speed-up because you faster go to the point where mines are useless.

But I think that rubble fields are really good thing for game because let's be real thre isn't a lot of players at SI2. Without rubble fields game was incredibly boring, because main thing that you would do in game was attacking or cooperating with other players. And if there is no players then there is nothing to do. Now there is like to much to do, there is not enough time in day to do all stuff.

But if you talk about changes, then I think that maybe change like little bit decrease how much rubbles are spawned, at the same time increase the number of spawn places that is respawned every hour, and at the same time increase range around aliens where rubbles can show up. So with that we will have pretty much the same number of rubbles but more scattered around galaxies. So it's harder to pick up and it's not stacking so much and creating "MEGA FIELDS".

Also I think that there shouldn't be 25% attack rule above 2 bilion points. Attack zones are for protecting small players, players with 2 bilion points are huge, soon a lot of players will go there. And since you must have like 2-3 times more points in fleet to attack somebody without losing too much of your fleet there is only small window between 3 times more fleet and 4 times more fleet (where you can't attack player because of 25% rule).

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Are you afraid that you will soon be caught up at the Fleet Points

Yea, they are all scared

Quote from AI-Virus

The debris fields should be reduced by a minimum factor of 0.1. The amount of resources generated per day is too excessive. Mines are defacto worthless. Speedup as well. The construction acceleration of the speedup could theoretically be compensated by MSA.

And just couple days ago it was reduced by factor of 0.3

Holgy57 Vielleicht irre ich mich, aber das Spiel scheint nicht gut zu funktionieren. Ich denke, Sie sollten andere sehr beliebte Spiele spielen und sie mit der SI vergleichen. Man muss es nicht mögen, aber diese Spiele sind viel schneller. Wenn Sie einem Spieler sagen, er soll einen Knopf drücken und dann 10 Minuten, eine Stunde, einen Tag, eine Woche auf einen Effekt warten, wird er während dieser Zeit etwas anderes tun (vielleicht ein anderes Spiel spielen) und die SI verlassen.

Sie sollten nicht nur darüber nachdenken, was Ihnen gefällt, sondern was gut für das Spiel ist und was mehr Spieler anziehen wird.

Quote from Holgy57

Doch mal ein Vorschlag von mir (Weihnnachtswunsch)

ein ganz neu startendes Uni SI-Classic und ein ganz neu startendes SI 2 Uni und alles ohne Speed um alles mal zu entschleunigen

LG Holgy

Es ist eine sehr schlechte Idee, das Spiel zu verlangsamen. Ich weiß nicht, welche Freude es macht, einen Knopf zu drücken und dann ein paar Stunden auf die Wirkung zu warten. Das Spiel soll in die entgegengesetzte Richtung gehen und schneller, dynamischer werden.

Quote from dark angel

there are a lot of rubble fields in the game

a lot of resources and players who collect little

I have suggestions

1. reduce the number of aliens so that there would be a fight for them

2. slightly reduce the fields of rubble

3. reduce the area of crushed stone fields

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Rubbles already were reduced by 30 percent (huge reduce), number of aliens too. But for aliens number we have to wait about two/three weeks because Dschibait didn't removed them manualy. So maybe we should wait until changes will be seen in game.

From the changes I have seen bigger activity then before. More active players on chat etc. I think the changes were made in a good way. Soon because of this rubble fields you will probably have more players to attack that will come closer to your points. Dont rush

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Quote from Dschibait

i found the problem; there was a divisionByZero fatal error...

this is fixed now.

I knew it must be something wrong!!!

Thank you very much Dschibait for fixing it

And I feel like same thing happend with every alien in galaxy because in other places I was able to find rubbles easy before now there is litteraly nothing

Hi,

Around my planet 1:130:9 there are 4 aliens with 5 stars:

1:127:16
1:130:14
1:132:16
1:133:18
Until I think yesterday this aliens spawned resources (even if they didn't for the first couple hours after respawn what I mentioned in this thread). But right now no new rubble fields are spawned. I have raports from my attacks on them from last days, and spy reports from now, and I can say that nobody else attacked them. And they spawned rubble fields. So there is bug that resets that spawning or it is an intended action. But your 'update post said:

"5* Aliens will spawn up to 20 rubblefields in the area every hour. The size of the rubblefields depends on the number of attacks on the alien (the more attacks, the larger the fields)"

There is nothing about that the "fury points" of aliens will reset itself in some time after attacks. So I'm not really sure what happend. Also couple days ago you said:

"I think that i don't explain the enrage/counting system here, but what maybe could be helpful, a alien who has a shield has the maximum size of rubblefields in that time he own the shield."

And this are spy raports from now:




So aliens have shield, and it's shield from destroying their fleets (I know because I did it), and not from their enrange attack.

Just moment ago I checked all systems from 1:124 to 1:136 and I didn't find single planet with big rubble field there. Before I wasn't really able to clear 3 systems around my planet because every hour new rubble fields respawned.

So I'm little bit confused about that. Is that possible that we get any details about how this rubble field spawning works?

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At 0815 I sent all my fleets out for 8 hours. How then did one of my planets get hit at 1148? This is BS in a big way and the third time it has happened. I thought this bug was fixed?

It's hard to understand what you mean. You sent fleet at 8:15? And somebody attacked your planet at 11:48? What's problem with that? You think nobody can attack you when you send your fleet away?

And people do mystakes, if your fleet get destroyed by your mystake don't try to blame everybody else

I'm playing AI 2 but I'd like to join topic. I'm not sure what 'space' means by "CURSORS" but I guess from the context that he would prefer to have option to choose multiple (for example pirate) bonuses at once in. If that's a case then such improvement would be also nice in SI 2.

There is already something like this:



Maybe it's possible to add multipier x10, x20, x50?

For now I have to click 37 times (for only yesterday (one day) pirates) if I want to pick research reduction. And each click must be additionally confirmed. With multipliers I just said instead of 37 times I would be able to do the same with 5 times And it shouldn't be a big problem the option is available anyway.

I think it's fine. Thanks

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it is - i changed that for the cooldown for this planet move (new exchange reward in gold event) - and having so big times in hours isnt rly cool readable; thats why i changed it to DAYS:HOURS:MINUTES:SECONDS

It's cool change. But this side bars should be probably little bit bigger? Because research time and energy (with 100x speed up) is cut.

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Can't you make them die?

otherwise hang indefinitely

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The complete alien FAQ

The complete alien FAQ -- reposted, not updated ever since V1 of forum thread!


A new feature always brings up plenty of questions. With this FAQ
we want to give you an overview of the new items and how to use them.


Basics:

• Who and what are those aliens?
• What effects do the aliens have on me?
• How can I recover my normal production level?
• How and where to find the aliens?
• How long do the alien planets stay?
• Are aliens able to upgrade?

Ships & Defence:

• What kind of ships do the aliens have?
• What kind of

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-Sarkasmus-

May 9th 2018

"How long do the alien planets stay?

Aliens have a different lifetime. Some aliens can upgrade, then they

will stay a little longer. An alien who is not destroyed by players,

will remain at least one week in the galaxy, but it can also be 3 weeks."

Quote from dark angel

And if dark angel is mad that might be good sign Changes are going in the right direction

it turns out that the larger the alien’s shield, the more it gives fields of rubble?

I meant that if you don't like the changes, it means that they are going in the right direction It was more like a joke

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why am I crazy????

What you mean?